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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 20:20:41 GMT
I know some ppl might not agree with me but this conclusion with master & rood being brothers after everything that was revealed so far just doesnt sit right with me. & 2 make matters worse, if it is the case as some people are claiming that the demon lord is somehow "sealed" in rood yet he looks like rood..... I just dont get it.... 4 me.....& again this is just my personal opinion.....if an author has taken so much time building up rood in2 something more then it turns out 2 be something completely different....I just couldnt take it after that..... It would be a different story if we never got those reveals... to tell the truth i don't know what this author is thinking. i get that you don't like these new facts but sometimes you just have to accept it. and to tell the truth i don't think Raven is sealed inside Rood either, i see Raven more as annother side of Rood, i mean how the hell did they seal Raven in Rood annyway if it was the case. you know why don't you just take a break for a bit and let everything settle in and come back later, then you can relax your mind from everything. well for the reveals well. it kinda makes sense now for the fact the Kiel left the tower, i mean he surely didn't leave for just one random kid. and it kinda clears up a few things on Rood himself. also i know somethings on this webtoon from someone that i'm not suposed to actualy know so i won't say more, but the story was originaly quite a bit darker, and i can see that there may have been leftovers from this. also sorry for not going further into that private discussion we had i just didn't know how to react whithout my mind going into overload. in fact i had a slight overload from typing this. "Ghoul-sama" you are the best as always I will take you're advice & just stay away from the series 4 a while & come back when i'm ready. it may not be this year though. Most likey sometime next year. Anyway about the private message, I understand.....thanks 4 explaining that 2 me. IF YOU DECIDE YOU WANT TO TALK 2 ME ABOUT ANY OTHER STUFF....WILL BE GLAD TO "LISTEN"....SO 2 SPEAK!
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Post by Popcrazy on Sept 9, 2015 22:29:32 GMT
Was having a bad couple of days, my cat..an orange tabby with stripes has been missing since sunday.. he's an indoor/outdoor cat so I let him out to play and he usually comes back in around 6pm to eat and stuff..he's a male cat so I figured it was just "heat" thing and he'd return once hes done whatever cats do ...but its been days since then and I'm starting to think someone might have taken him (blaming myself for not getting a chip implanted!) He's always annoying me, but is really playful and friendly...he always worries me a lot..damn cat. I've circles the block and called&called as well as asked the locals in my area if they've seen him, but to no avail These 2 chapters this week helped keep my mind away from the bad thoughts/worries I've been plagued with these last couple days/nights. It was much appreciated. (picture is old, cheese is much bigger now) Attachments:
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Post by Asectic on Sept 9, 2015 23:26:20 GMT
My first reaction: I was so ecstatic ever since I saw there were 2 chapters being released for this week. It was perfect since being in an airport all day after a 13 hour plane ride & a baggage mishap ... anyways with the introduction of the two's past I was very much intrigued.
My first reaction to the start of the flashback was that, probably like everyone else the surprise factor of them being brothers were definitely there. After reading the first flashback chapter I couldn't help but wonder at first then, who their real father was since in the earlier chapters Kiel's magician or "demon" name was Danterous. I honestly thought Rood was a half brother . These week's chapters have certainly cleared that up. But since I'm not much of a theorist, all I can say is I cannot wait to see more of the behind the scenes!
I wonder how the Tower found out about the multiple Demon King existing though. Like on what theoretical basis on their world.
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Post by ccninja on Sept 10, 2015 2:29:20 GMT
My first reaction: I was so ecstatic ever since I saw there were 2 chapters being released for this week. It was perfect since being in an airport all day after a 13 hour plane ride & a baggage mishap ... anyways with the introduction of the two's past I was very much intrigued.
My first reaction to the start of the flashback was that, probably like everyone else the surprise factor of them being brothers were definitely there. After reading the first flashback chapter I couldn't help but wonder at first then, who their real father was since in the earlier chapters Kiel's magician or "demon" name was Danterous. I honestly thought Rood was a half brother . These week's chapters have certainly cleared that up. But since I'm not much of a theorist, all I can say is I cannot wait to see more of the behind the scenes!
I wonder how the Tower found out about the multiple Demon King existing though. Like on what theoretical basis on their world. They said they got the information on the multiple demon kings from an old book. In my mind, I feel like it's probably something akin to old myths such as the epic of Gilgamesh or the Dead Sea Scrolls for them maybe?
Technically, though, there still is a chance that Kiel and Rood might be half-brothers. Yong yong might be trying to lead us on a little. Kiel said in chapter 122 that he never saw his father at the mansion during the period in which his mother got pregnant, and Kiel's father's wife did say that Rood wasn't Kiel's father's child. In chapter 122, Kiel stated that his mother had locked herself up in her room as if to hide the pregnancy. Kiel's mother also hesitated a little before telling Kiel that his father was Rood's father. Interestingly, Rood also took the last name of his mother, and not his "father." I think that it's possible that Kiel's mother might have lied to both Rood and Kiel about his father so as to hide Rood's true origins. Rood might be the son of the demon king as some people have been saying or the demon king might have reincarnated similarly to the Earl of Millennium in D. Gray-man for those who have seen the newer chapters of that (I won't go into too much detail on it though so as to avoid spoilers.) Of course, this is just speculation and could be entirely false. It still is just as likely that Rood and Kiel are full brothers and got the demon king's powers when he met him in the demon world during the tower's experiment.
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Post by *~~mattaku8World8bodimasen~~* on Sept 10, 2015 3:48:52 GMT
My fear has come true =_= Rood is Master's brother..... But somehow,...Rood is way more cuter than Master...
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Post by Neco on Sept 10, 2015 3:55:50 GMT
My fear has come true =_= Rood is Master's brother..... But somehow,...Rood is way more cuter than Master... Was Master cute at some point??? But Rood was pretty much adorable...but he broke my heart...he wanted his brother's help ;____; The poor baby...
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Post by tg on Sept 10, 2015 5:57:27 GMT
Hey guys 4 those of you that dont know....I decided 2 drop BH. I'm actually here 2 say my good-byes 4 those who will miss me....probably nobody lol Anyway I dont think its right 4 me 2 still be part of the BH forum when I dont plan 2 read it anymore (say this with a heavy heart), I'm actually thinking of scenarios where I'm like the black sheep of the BH family . Well anyway b4 I go I just wanted to say thanks 2 all the wonderful, kind, amazing, super talented, interesting (the list can go on) people I had the pleasure of speaking 2. U guys are great..... truly. >__< kbm! I wish you could give the story another chance, but knowing how you're not liking it in your favor, I guess there really isn't much else to say. (That's like me with battle shounen manga/webtoons. Haha... So, very understandable.) Thanks for your webtoon recommendation input in the other thread. See ya around, kbm! As for any chapter relevant discussion, I made a long one in Disqus, but I'm really running out of time. I'm not sure if I should re-quote it here, considering we're going to have a long discussion over there. Heh...
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Post by Ebony on Sept 10, 2015 8:37:11 GMT
Was having a bad couple of days, my cat..an orange tabby with stripes has been missing since sunday.. he's an indoor/outdoor cat so I let him out to play and he usually comes back in around 6pm to eat and stuff..he's a male cat so I figured it was just "heat" thing and he'd return once hes done whatever cats do ...but its been days since then and I'm starting to think someone might have taken him (blaming myself for not getting a chip implanted!) He's always annoying me, but is really playful and friendly...he always worries me a lot..damn cat. I've circles the block and called&called as well as asked the locals in my area if they've seen him, but to no avail These 2 chapters this week helped keep my mind away from the bad thoughts/worries I've been plagued with these last couple days/nights. It was much appreciated. (picture is old, cheese is much bigger now) I hope you find your cat soon
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2015 10:28:23 GMT
Hey guys 4 those of you that dont know....I decided 2 drop BH. I'm actually here 2 say my good-byes 4 those who will miss me....probably nobody lol Anyway I dont think its right 4 me 2 still be part of the BH forum when I dont plan 2 read it anymore (say this with a heavy heart), I'm actually thinking of scenarios where I'm like the black sheep of the BH family . Well anyway b4 I go I just wanted to say thanks 2 all the wonderful, kind, amazing, super talented, interesting (the list can go on) people I had the pleasure of speaking 2. U guys are great..... truly. >__< kbm! I wish you could give the story another chance, but knowing how you're not liking it in your favor, I guess there really isn't much else to say. (That's like me with battle shounen manga/webtoons. Haha... So, very understandable.) Thanks for your webtoon recommendation input in the other thread. See ya around, kbm! As for any chapter relevant discussion, I made a long one in Disqus, but I'm really running out of time. I'm not sure if I should re-quote it here, considering we're going to have a long discussion over there. Heh... I decided 2 @ least stay around this forum so u will c me around sometimes. BTW I didnt drop BH becuz it wasnt going my way. I dropped it becuz it wasnt making sense 2 me anymore. I was starting 2 feel like how I was feeling when I read TRUMP webtoon......its in season 2 of trump & I still dont know what the actual plot it! Anyway I might come back 2 BH in a yr or 2....who knows.... *nothing is more heart breaking than dropping a series you absolutely loved....its happened a couple times 2 me & I had hoped it wouldnt happen with BH...
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Post by silentrivertruth on Sept 10, 2015 12:17:44 GMT
My fear has come true =_= Rood is Master's brother..... But somehow,...Rood is way more cuter than Master... I agree. Seeing an extremely adorable little Rood is making me a pedo XD But I swear, Master looks so handsome with his hair brushed up like that. >////<
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Post by havoc on Sept 10, 2015 14:52:21 GMT
Since I'm not talented in writing essay like theories like certain TG here, I'll just make a list of possible ways that could make our little cute Rood end up in Tower's storage. (I like to call it the place where he was found in the prologue) 1. Rood was sold to Tower by evil uncle. If Leto wasn't a psychopath, who simply enjoys killing, then selling troublesome kid is always a better way. Why did he kill Kiel's mother, anyway? It makes no sense to me. Were they envious, or found her to be a disgrace to their family? I Can't think of any reason with current information. 2. Rood escaped from Leto, roamed around the streets, then got found by some Tower magician looking for experiment samples and was picked up, getting mistaken for a homeless orphan. 3. Rood remembered that his brother was hanging out with people in Tower robes, followed a random magician and ended up sneaking into Tower. There someone noticed him and thinking that he was a runaway experiment, imprisoned him in Storage.
Also, I see other possibility than Rood just being first real succesful experiment, that went to demon world and returned sane. He might not have been sent there yet, when Tower accomplished their goal and summoned demon king. Or DK might have come willingly to see who is throwing kids to his realm. Then he met Rood, who asked for help and decided to grant his wish and gave him powers. Seeing despicable acts of humans, he wiped out all present magicians. Then captivated by Rood's cuteness decided to stay with him and protect him. LOL, this theory went astray while writing xD.
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Post by Popcrazy on Sept 10, 2015 21:27:39 GMT
Was having a bad couple of days, my cat..an orange tabby with stripes has been missing since sunday.. he's an indoor/outdoor cat so I let him out to play and he usually comes back in around 6pm to eat and stuff..he's a male cat so I figured it was just "heat" thing and he'd return once hes done whatever cats do ...but its been days since then and I'm starting to think someone might have taken him (blaming myself for not getting a chip implanted!) He's always annoying me, but is really playful and friendly...he always worries me a lot..damn cat. I've circles the block and called&called as well as asked the locals in my area if they've seen him, but to no avail These 2 chapters this week helped keep my mind away from the bad thoughts/worries I've been plagued with these last couple days/nights. It was much appreciated. (picture is old, cheese is much bigger now) I hope you find your cat soon Thank you, it means a lot to me. I'll keep looking and try putting up some posters around town about him. Who knows? Maybe someone might have seen him in their area.. (my brother says male cats can travel up to around 30 miles from their homes just wandering so maybe...) Until we get a call, I'll focus my attention to other things (Jobs, Cleaning, Black Haze etc)
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Post by tg on Sept 11, 2015 5:37:36 GMT
I decided 2 @ least stay around this forum so u will c me around sometimes. BTW I didnt drop BH becuz it wasnt going my way. I dropped it becuz it wasnt making sense 2 me anymore. I was starting 2 feel like how I was feeling when I read TRUMP webtoon......its in season 2 of trump & I still dont know what the actual plot it! Anyway I might come back 2 BH in a yr or 2....who knows.... *nothing is more heart breaking than dropping a series you absolutely loved....its happened a couple times 2 me & I had hoped it wouldnt happen with BH... Well, that's great, kbm! I use to read Trump, because it was one of my first webtoons. However, even though the art was "pretty", the story was definitely too confusing. I didn't really like that some of the characters lived pretty long lives. It was just very hard to follow at some points, so, I stopped reading it. Although, I did find the "time traveling in an object's memory lane" part to be interesting. Otherwise, the giant snail kind of killed it for me. =__=; I think I went only 30 some episodes in... It's been so long now. I found Black Haze to make more sense, while having many mysteries. This is my idea webtoon for me. It answers some things and give you more confusion, but in a good way confusion. Trump was just.....not even really mysterious. It was just "whhaaa?" You just need to be patient with Black Haze, kbm. Maybe, it is a good plan for you to take a break and come back when more episodes are added in? This isn't exactly that confusing of a webtoon, but if it helps you, that's good. Since I'm not talented in writing essay like theories like certain TG here, I'll just make a list of possible ways that could make our little cute Rood end up in Tower's storage. (I like to call it the place where he was found in the prologue) 1. Rood was sold to Tower by evil uncle. If Leto wasn't a psychopath, who simply enjoys killing, then selling troublesome kid is always a better way. Why did he kill Kiel's mother, anyway? It makes no sense to me. Were they envious, or found her to be a disgrace to their family? I Can't think of any reason with current information. 2. Rood escaped from Leto, roamed around the streets, then got found by some Tower magician looking for experiment samples and was picked up, getting mistaken for a homeless orphan. 3. Rood remembered that his brother was hanging out with people in Tower robes, followed a random magician and ended up sneaking into Tower. There someone noticed him and thinking that he was a runaway experiment, imprisoned him in Storage. Also, I see other possibility than Rood just being first real succesful experiment, that went to demon world and returned sane. He might not have been sent there yet, when Tower accomplished their goal and summoned demon king. Or DK might have come willingly to see who is throwing kids to his realm. Then he met Rood, who asked for help and decided to grant his wish and gave him powers. Seeing despicable acts of humans, he wiped out all present magicians. Then captivated by Rood's cuteness decided to stay with him and protect him. LOL, this theory went astray while writing xD. You did well with your theory. What are you talking about that you're not talented? Haha... I like some of the theories you made. Those first three points are all plausible. However, for your second part, you just need to remember that Rood was the Demon King. Not just someone, who inherited his abilities. You got me thinking though.... I speculated that the first captured Demon King was Rood, but I could be wrong, because that captured Demon King is the same one with the horn cut off. If it's true that there are other Demon Kings, maybe the captured demon that met Rood in his subconscious is another Demon King? Which explains the "brethren/brother" remark...? Wait, what if the Demon King had a brother? Two Demon Kings? So, the other Demon King got captured? This could explain why we see DemonKing!Rood in human form in all the flashbacks with him. Oh great. I just made this more complicated for Rood! D: This story may be very brotherly love if Rood once had a demon brother. So, this other Demon King got captured. This Demon King may be the cause of the demons coming out then? He may be the one, who opened the Door that the human king discovered? So, DemonKing!Rood may have followed him to get him back? DemonKing!Rood ends up being the one to save the humans. So wait... Maybe the past history wasn't fully twisted? But, there were two Demon Kings, then? Hence, why that ancient book said "more than one". I'm going to stop brainstorming for now. @__@ Maybe, put some of this into the theory thread....? It's getting wild.
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Post by shiryonatsu on Sept 12, 2015 0:27:24 GMT
My first reaction after reading the latest chapters be like: Why do I need to wait for another week for the awesome chapter of this awesome manhwa to appear on the manga sites that I have wake up 1:00AM in my timezone just to read it immediately??? Rood why so adorable (no wonder why kielnode became a brocon xD) And about the memory loss...is it purposely erased or some kind of mental breakdown? So all the plot twistsss will not be revealed at Kiel's flashback. at least it will lessen all the conlficts in my mind *sigh*
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