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Post by loifavl on Aug 25, 2015 15:31:09 GMT
ikr TT^TT it's such a pity that they don't understand I forced a lot of my friends to read them: one stopped at like chapter 30, one finds it okay, but isn't too motivated to keep reading, one haven't even gotten to reading it yet, one reads it only when I forces him > really, such a pity ;x; feel bad for them they're missing out on the best manhwa <3 Yeah,I feel bad for them,It seems like god doesn't choose them. I don't get why they don't like it,it's soooo good!!!Or maybe they just read too much manga and think the kind of chracter that is already strong is not cool. yea... I don't really understand why... don't think I'd ever be able to XD bh isn't cliche, it's hilarious so idk :/
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Post by *~~mattaku8World8bodimasen~~* on Aug 26, 2015 1:34:46 GMT
Yeah,I feel bad for them,It seems like god doesn't choose them. I don't get why they don't like it,it's soooo good!!!Or maybe they just read too much manga and think the kind of chracter that is already strong is not cool. yea... I don't really understand why... don't think I'd ever be able to XD bh isn't cliche, it's hilarious so idk :/ The world sure is big...there are always things we can never understand...
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Post by Asectic on Aug 26, 2015 9:31:47 GMT
With the over-hype generated from animes like Sword Art Online and Mahouka Kokou no Rettousei I have recently seen people complain over similar things, where if one new manga/manhwa/manhua about another similar concept they would massively complain. I can't help but feel the same about recent manhua though, where there almost every one I see all involve some form of reincarnation & fantasy. But Black Haze on summary or something should really advertise how it doesn't follow the same shounen & OP character storyline. I guess that could make new readers think of it differently.
What anime are you guys currently watching? I'm currently watching one called Senki Zesshou Symphogear G. It's a magical mecha girl fighting anime but having played music before I just loved the songs that are constantly played. And other than the summer lineup there is also One Outs. I came across a person always recommending this to others and being too psychological about a sport I kind of like it.
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Post by *~~mattaku8World8bodimasen~~* on Aug 26, 2015 11:24:42 GMT
With the over-hype generated from animes like Sword Art Online and Mahouka Kokou no Rettousei I have recently seen people complain over similar things, where if one new manga/manhwa/manhua about another similar concept they would massively complain. I can't help but feel the same about recent manhua though, where there almost every one I see all involve some form of reincarnation & fantasy. o_O But Black Haze on summary or something should really advertise how it doesn't follow the same shounen & OP character storyline. I guess that could make new readers think of it differently.
What anime are you guys currently watching? I'm currently watching one called Senki Zesshou Symphogear G. It's a magical mecha girl fighting anime but having played music before I just loved the songs that are constantly played. And other than the summer lineup there is also One Outs. I came across a person always recommending this to others and being too psychological about a sport I kind of like it. Yeah after SAO ss1 I've seen some manga like that,and after ss2,well,I can see it everywhere,they like the idea of being trapped in a game(but there are some good ones,they just like the idea and so they used it to make their own manga) BH is the best,it's just,da best! :D I'm currently watching Shokugeki no Souma,World Trigger,Durarara!!x2 ten,Death Parade,Baby Steps,Overlord,and more but I don't remember(it's a bad hobby,watch a little of this and a little of that,although the onens that I named are the ones that I'm waiting for the new ep) And currently waiting for Tokyo Ghoul Jack(I hope it's not too short),not interested in Free ss3(really,it's already the third ss)Haikyuu ss2,One punch man(cause I haven't got the change to read the manga yet),...but I'm interested in Owari no Seraph ss2(who would think that they'll make ss2 right after ss1?! even tokyo ghoul Re have to wait for about 4 months to be release)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 17:51:46 GMT
With the over-hype generated from animes like Sword Art Online and Mahouka Kokou no Rettousei I have recently seen people complain over similar things, where if one new manga/manhwa/manhua about another similar concept they would massively complain. I can't help but feel the same about recent manhua though, where there almost every one I see all involve some form of reincarnation & fantasy. But Black Haze on summary or something should really advertise how it doesn't follow the same shounen & OP character storyline. I guess that could make new readers think of it differently.
What anime are you guys currently watching? I'm currently watching one called Senki Zesshou Symphogear G. It's a magical mecha girl fighting anime but having played music before I just loved the songs that are constantly played. And other than the summer lineup there is also One Outs. I came across a person always recommending this to others and being too psychological about a sport I kind of like it. YOU thought Mahouka Kokou no Rettousei was over hype? I know it had its share of problems but i didnt think it was a bad series
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Post by urochaa on Aug 29, 2015 0:09:42 GMT
oh yea, flamewars can be the worst. it's usually interesting to see different opinions, and then there are times when people just literally pick on one bad quality about a character, which turns out to be a whole-on argument... nah i agree it is weird. Just like shipwars holy cow thats rude of him! thats really pushing it for no good reason... that's true, nothing can be absolutely perfect in animations, people really shouldn't be mad about it either. some people... oh no no, you don't have to apologize for anything ^^ I'm sorry that has happened to you though; thats really unnecessary to call you a blind fan *hugs* btw, is it okay if i can ask for your DA? ;w; <3 they are awful to be in but really funny to read sometimes, most of the time i read one half of the facts they mention are wrong XD. but yeah difrent opinions are intereting but most of those people think that their opinion is the right one, thats what annoyis me the most. ship wars i have never been into one of those, but then again i don´t ship much, if i like a ship i just go cool that you like it, and if i don´t like one i just ignore that ship, but even ships i hate amuse me sometimes whith what those shippers can think up. really rude of him. and its was aboud the animation of DragonBall Super episode 5 which had some questionable frames, but when i saw them i just started laughing, Goku looked so wierd in those it was just hilarious. he also comailed aboud that fact they repeated stuff from the movies, which i don't mind as the news ways are also entertaining to watch just like the movie. the guy usualy goes like " this should go that way, or why didn´t this character do that, why didn't they explore more into that" ugh i hate those people, so i usualy tell the guy that if he doesn't like it he sould stop watching or ignore it not and not post those stupid complaints that the creators probaly won't ever read. he was fine when i just started talking to him, but later he went worse, he became exactly the kind of fan that he hates and doesn't want to acknowledge it. my deviantart user name is Animefan9545, i´m one of the co-founders of the DA fangroup. i agree! xD the facts are usually made up by themselves, and the way they defend their point... um yea, i dont know where does all that confidence come from... its not very fun to be in it xD i never been in ship war either nor do i really ship anything too, i've seen so much drama among my friends only. People like litterly cling to their opinions as if it's something they try to preach xD dbz's animation is always amusing to see when you can see the odd frames, its hard to try not to laugh and ignore them xD but yea, you're right, they shouldn't have wasted their time complaining about something that is supposed to entertain them >< alot of people usually refuse to hear bad qualities about themselves but love to say bad things about others, especially on the web... it's wrong that he flamed you about it tho >< ahh thanks for letting me know, i just watched you afew days ago! ( sorry i forgot about this message since i was gone to work for afew days >< ) and yeep! i noticed that, and thats so cool!
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Post by Asectic on Aug 29, 2015 19:03:34 GMT
With the over-hype generated from animes like Sword Art Online and Mahouka Kokou no Rettousei I have recently seen people complain over similar things, where if one new manga/manhwa/manhua about another similar concept they would massively complain. I can't help but feel the same about recent manhua though, where there almost every one I see all involve some form of reincarnation & fantasy. But Black Haze on summary or something should really advertise how it doesn't follow the same shounen & OP character storyline. I guess that could make new readers think of it differently.
What anime are you guys currently watching? I'm currently watching one called Senki Zesshou Symphogear G. It's a magical mecha girl fighting anime but having played music before I just loved the songs that are constantly played. And other than the summer lineup there is also One Outs. I came across a person always recommending this to others and being too psychological about a sport I kind of like it. YOU thought Mahouka Kokou no Rettousei was over hype? I know it had its share of problems but i didnt think it was a bad series *facepalm* For some reason as I was writing I got overpowered and over hype confused. I was thinking of the meme on Black Haze about "what I expected versus what I ended up seeing" and so.... *_* But Tatsuya was defintely just OP and series as a whole was not overhyped. I liked it, and what happened afterwards towards the main cast reaching their second year wasn't too bad either.
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Post by Asectic on Aug 29, 2015 19:17:10 GMT
With the over-hype generated from animes like Sword Art Online and Mahouka Kokou no Rettousei I have recently seen people complain over similar things, where if one new manga/manhwa/manhua about another similar concept they would massively complain. I can't help but feel the same about recent manhua though, where there almost every one I see all involve some form of reincarnation & fantasy. But Black Haze on summary or something should really advertise how it doesn't follow the same shounen & OP character storyline. I guess that could make new readers think of it differently.
What anime are you guys currently watching? I'm currently watching one called Senki Zesshou Symphogear G. It's a magical mecha girl fighting anime but having played music before I just loved the songs that are constantly played. And other than the summer lineup there is also One Outs. I came across a person always recommending this to others and being too psychological about a sport I kind of like it. Yeah after SAO ss1 I've seen some manga like that,and after ss2,well,I can see it everywhere,they like the idea of being trapped in a game(but there are some good ones,they just like the idea and so they used it to make their own manga) BH is the best,it's just,da best! I'm currently watching Shokugeki no Souma,World Trigger,Durarara!!x2 ten,Death Parade,Baby Steps,Overlord,and more but I don't remember(it's a bad hobby,watch a little of this and a little of that,although the onens that I named are the ones that I'm waiting for the new ep) And currently waiting for Tokyo Ghoul Jack(I hope it's not too short),not interested in Free ss3(really,it's already the third ss)Haikyuu ss2,One punch man(cause I haven't got the change to read the manga yet),...but I'm interested in Owari no Seraph ss2(who would think that they'll make ss2 right after ss1?! even tokyo ghoul Re have to wait for about 4 months to be release) I didn't realize that Free had a third season, I wouldn't know even if I'd be interested in it either. The second season definitely was something with the MC being hesitant as usual. XD Whoa that list is neat, watching the ones with many number of eps. I somehow usually tend to read manga if a series has anything more than 13 eps, since I always think that if any longer then that the anime will always make a deviation from the manga somewhere For summer I guess I would be looking forwards to Aoharu x Kikanju, Akagami no Shirayukihime and Charlotte. I haven't gotten to full summer line yet other than Rokka since I don't like the ecchi settings much but I definitely am looking forwards to fall as well. You should definitely read Onepunch man if you can, the art with Murata is anazing!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 20:26:11 GMT
Yeah after SAO ss1 I've seen some manga like that,and after ss2,well,I can see it everywhere,they like the idea of being trapped in a game(but there are some good ones,they just like the idea and so they used it to make their own manga) BH is the best,it's just,da best! I'm currently watching Shokugeki no Souma,World Trigger,Durarara!!x2 ten,Death Parade,Baby Steps,Overlord,and more but I don't remember(it's a bad hobby,watch a little of this and a little of that,although the onens that I named are the ones that I'm waiting for the new ep) And currently waiting for Tokyo Ghoul Jack(I hope it's not too short),not interested in Free ss3(really,it's already the third ss)Haikyuu ss2,One punch man(cause I haven't got the change to read the manga yet),...but I'm interested in Owari no Seraph ss2(who would think that they'll make ss2 right after ss1?! even tokyo ghoul Re have to wait for about 4 months to be release) I didn't realize that Free had a third season, I wouldn't know even if I'd be interested in it either. The second season definitely was something with the MC being hesitant as usual. XD Whoa that list is neat, watching the ones with many number of eps. I somehow usually tend to read manga if a series has anything more than 13 eps, since I always think that if any longer then that the anime will always make a deviation from the manga somewhere For summer I guess I would be looking forwards to Aoharu x Kikanju, Akagami no Shirayukihime and Charlotte. I haven't gotten to full summer line yet other than Rokka since I don't like the ecchi settings much but I definitely am looking forwards to fall as well. You should definitely read Onepunch man if you can, the art with Murata is anazing! First things first......FREE is getting a season 3? why is this the first i'm hearing about it? hmmm. it wasnt the greatest seris ever but it had its moments. do u guys know how free anime came about.....apparently some studio or ad agency was promoting something & they used the characters we now know in free. it ad blew up so much there were requests to make an anime cuz the fangirls were going crazy over the swimming hotties....next thing u know within a 1 1/2 yrs s.1 of free came out.
I am currently watching Souma (i'm behind 3 episodes to dont talk about it) its a damn entertaining series, Ore Monogatari! (have any1 seen it? u should check it out, its a romantic comedy.....emphasis on comedy.....its really an experience u'll never 4get ), classroom crisis gets better each episode, charlotte turned out to be better than i expected and arslan senki . I gotta say that Akagami no Shirayukihime was boring 4 me, dropped it after ep 3. I couldnt wrap my head about Rokka, the setting was weird....a kind of aztec setting? i just couldnt with that one.
Btw Asectic, what do u think of miyuki? i have issues with her bcuz i fine she is 2 dependent on tatsuya. i like characters that are their own person NOT an extension of another person......nothing annoys me more! & she is way 2 obsessed with him. SPOILER I actually read the summaries 4 the light novel.....u know they are being forced to marry by their aunt? END SPOILER
have u seen Magi anime?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 20:28:10 GMT
With the over-hype generated from animes like Sword Art Online and Mahouka Kokou no Rettousei I have recently seen people complain over similar things, where if one new manga/manhwa/manhua about another similar concept they would massively complain. I can't help but feel the same about recent manhua though, where there almost every one I see all involve some form of reincarnation & fantasy. But Black Haze on summary or something should really advertise how it doesn't follow the same shounen & OP character storyline. I guess that could make new readers think of it differently.
What anime are you guys currently watching? I'm currently watching one called Senki Zesshou Symphogear G. It's a magical mecha girl fighting anime but having played music before I just loved the songs that are constantly played. And other than the summer lineup there is also One Outs. I came across a person always recommending this to others and being too psychological about a sport I kind of like it. Yeah after SAO ss1 I've seen some manga like that,and after ss2,well,I can see it everywhere,they like the idea of being trapped in a game(but there are some good ones,they just like the idea and so they used it to make their own manga) BH is the best,it's just,da best! I'm currently watching Shokugeki no Souma,World Trigger,Durarara!!x2 ten,Death Parade,Baby Steps,Overlord,and more but I don't remember(it's a bad hobby,watch a little of this and a little of that,although the onens that I named are the ones that I'm waiting for the new ep) And currently waiting for Tokyo Ghoul Jack(I hope it's not too short),not interested in Free ss3(really,it's already the third ss)Haikyuu ss2,One punch man(cause I haven't got the change to read the manga yet),...but I'm interested in Owari no Seraph ss2(who would think that they'll make ss2 right after ss1?! even tokyo ghoul Re have to wait for about 4 months to be release) Have u ever seen the anime Magi?
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Post by ghoulchan on Aug 30, 2015 21:22:50 GMT
they are awful to be in but really funny to read sometimes, most of the time i read one half of the facts they mention are wrong XD. but yeah difrent opinions are intereting but most of those people think that their opinion is the right one, thats what annoyis me the most. ship wars i have never been into one of those, but then again i don´t ship much, if i like a ship i just go cool that you like it, and if i don´t like one i just ignore that ship, but even ships i hate amuse me sometimes whith what those shippers can think up. really rude of him. and its was aboud the animation of DragonBall Super episode 5 which had some questionable frames, but when i saw them i just started laughing, Goku looked so wierd in those it was just hilarious. he also comailed aboud that fact they repeated stuff from the movies, which i don't mind as the news ways are also entertaining to watch just like the movie. the guy usualy goes like " this should go that way, or why didn´t this character do that, why didn't they explore more into that" ugh i hate those people, so i usualy tell the guy that if he doesn't like it he sould stop watching or ignore it not and not post those stupid complaints that the creators probaly won't ever read. he was fine when i just started talking to him, but later he went worse, he became exactly the kind of fan that he hates and doesn't want to acknowledge it. my deviantart user name is Animefan9545, i´m one of the co-founders of the DA fangroup. i agree! xD the facts are usually made up by themselves, and the way they defend their point... um yea, i dont know where does all that confidence come from... its not very fun to be in it xD i never been in ship war either nor do i really ship anything too, i've seen so much drama among my friends only. People like litterly cling to their opinions as if it's something they try to preach xD dbz's animation is always amusing to see when you can see the odd frames, its hard to try not to laugh and ignore them xD but yea, you're right, they shouldn't have wasted their time complaining about something that is supposed to entertain them >< alot of people usually refuse to hear bad qualities about themselves but love to say bad things about others, especially on the web... it's wrong that he flamed you about it tho >< ahh thanks for letting me know, i just watched you afew days ago! ( sorry i forgot about this message since i was gone to work for afew days >< ) and yeep! i noticed that, and thats so cool! those people are wierd. shipping wars are wierd becuase most things they ship are never gonna be cannon annyway. bad freme's in animation are always entertaining, seriously just pause an animated movie and pause at a random moment half of the time you'll laugh you ass of. but yeah complaining aboud something thats ment for entertainment is just wrong. even if something is conciderd "bad" if it's still entertaining it has done it's job. i see.
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Post by urochaa on Aug 30, 2015 21:38:54 GMT
those people are wierd. shipping wars are wierd becuase most things they ship are never gonna be cannon annyway. bad freme's in animation are always entertaining, seriously just pause an animated movie and pause at a random moment half of the time you'll laugh you ass of. but yeah complaining aboud something thats ment for entertainment is just wrong. even if something is conciderd "bad" if it's still entertaining it has done it's job. i see. hahaha indeed weird xD it kinda makes me sad how people would fight over these sorta things sometimes... lol those are taboo words to say that to a shipper...just kidding xD pfffft yea! aah the joys of bad frames~ xD especially in the very old old animations, those are always funny xD
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Post by ghoulchan on Aug 31, 2015 11:09:17 GMT
those people are wierd. shipping wars are wierd becuase most things they ship are never gonna be cannon annyway. bad freme's in animation are always entertaining, seriously just pause an animated movie and pause at a random moment half of the time you'll laugh you ass of. but yeah complaining aboud something thats ment for entertainment is just wrong. even if something is conciderd "bad" if it's still entertaining it has done it's job. i see. hahaha indeed weird xD it kinda makes me sad how people would fight over these sorta things sometimes... lol those are taboo words to say that to a shipper...just kidding xD pfffft yea! aah the joys of bad frames~ xD especially in the very old old animations, those are always funny xD people always like to start fights, nothing you can do aboud that. all i can say to those kind of people is "I don't care" or i'll let these two do the talking they work in allot of agruguments. also annother one of these because i just can ...... they are quite good... TFS really knows how to make quotes that work in these situations. bad frames... are just art... what is there to say.
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Post by Asectic on Sept 4, 2015 5:53:31 GMT
I didn't realize that Free had a third season, I wouldn't know even if I'd be interested in it either. The second season definitely was something with the MC being hesitant as usual. XD Whoa that list is neat, watching the ones with many number of eps. I somehow usually tend to read manga if a series has anything more than 13 eps, since I always think that if any longer then that the anime will always make a deviation from the manga somewhere For summer I guess I would be looking forwards to Aoharu x Kikanju, Akagami no Shirayukihime and Charlotte. I haven't gotten to full summer line yet other than Rokka since I don't like the ecchi settings much but I definitely am looking forwards to fall as well. You should definitely read Onepunch man if you can, the art with Murata is anazing! First things first......FREE is getting a season 3? why is this the first i'm hearing about it? hmmm. it wasnt the greatest seris ever but it had its moments. do u guys know how free anime came about.....apparently some studio or ad agency was promoting something & they used the characters we now know in free. it ad blew up so much there were requests to make an anime cuz the fangirls were going crazy over the swimming hotties....next thing u know within a 1 1/2 yrs s.1 of free came out.
I am currently watching Souma (i'm behind 3 episodes to dont talk about it) its a damn entertaining series, Ore Monogatari! (have any1 seen it? u should check it out, its a romantic comedy.....emphasis on comedy.....its really an experience u'll never 4get ), classroom crisis gets better each episode, charlotte turned out to be better than i expected and arslan senki . I gotta say that Akagami no Shirayukihime was boring 4 me, dropped it after ep 3. I couldnt wrap my head about Rokka, the setting was weird....a kind of aztec setting? i just couldnt with that one.
Btw Asectic, what do u think of miyuki? i have issues with her bcuz i fine she is 2 dependent on tatsuya. i like characters that are their own person NOT an extension of another person......nothing annoys me more! & she is way 2 obsessed with him. SPOILER I actually read the summaries 4 the light novel.....u know they are being forced to marry by their aunt? END SPOILER
have u seen Magi anime?
Apparently Rokka is a mystery fantasy setting, since from what I heard the light novel pretty much keeps the entire setting of "who is the seventh" then actually fighting the Demon God as a normal fantasy would be.
I read the light novel for Mahouka Rettousei before it got licensed on the Baka Tsuki site, and there is a reason as to why Miyuki depends on her brother as she does in the anime. And contrary to what you read it's the complete opposite of what the summary said, since Tatsuya is being treated as a tool more than a real family member or head. Since it turns out that the Yotsuba clan they're from is the most powerful yet very secretive, so having the "Decomposition" and "Regrowth" specialized magics of his is considered as "that's how powerful as a Yotsuba should at least be if you want to be a member of our family". There were a few other messed up things they did to him, but in short I don't believe they are meant to be married if he's treated as a tool & also a threat by his family
I have watched the first couple of episodes of Magi, but I really couldn't like the characters so I didn't finish it. I heard it was a great anime and the powers get OP later.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2015 7:09:50 GMT
First things first......FREE is getting a season 3? why is this the first i'm hearing about it? hmmm. it wasnt the greatest seris ever but it had its moments. do u guys know how free anime came about.....apparently some studio or ad agency was promoting something & they used the characters we now know in free. it ad blew up so much there were requests to make an anime cuz the fangirls were going crazy over the swimming hotties....next thing u know within a 1 1/2 yrs s.1 of free came out.
I am currently watching Souma (i'm behind 3 episodes to dont talk about it) its a damn entertaining series, Ore Monogatari! (have any1 seen it? u should check it out, its a romantic comedy.....emphasis on comedy.....its really an experience u'll never 4get ), classroom crisis gets better each episode, charlotte turned out to be better than i expected and arslan senki . I gotta say that Akagami no Shirayukihime was boring 4 me, dropped it after ep 3. I couldnt wrap my head about Rokka, the setting was weird....a kind of aztec setting? i just couldnt with that one.
Btw Asectic, what do u think of miyuki? i have issues with her bcuz i fine she is 2 dependent on tatsuya. i like characters that are their own person NOT an extension of another person......nothing annoys me more! & she is way 2 obsessed with him. SPOILER I actually read the summaries 4 the light novel.....u know they are being forced to marry by their aunt? END SPOILER
have u seen Magi anime?
Apparently Rokka is a mystery fantasy setting, since from what I heard the light novel pretty much keeps the entire setting of "who is the seventh" then actually fighting the Demon God as a normal fantasy would be.
I read the light novel for Mahouka Rettousei before it got licensed on the Baka Tsuki site, and there is a reason as to why Miyuki depends on her brother as she does in the anime. And contrary to what you read it's the complete opposite of what the summary said, since Tatsuya is being treated as a tool more than a real family member or head. Since it turns out that the Yotsuba clan they're from is the most powerful yet very secretive, so having the "Decomposition" and "Regrowth" specialized magics of his is considered as "that's how powerful as a Yotsuba should at least be if you want to be a member of our family". There were a few other messed up things they did to him, but in short I don't believe they are meant to be married if he's treated as a tool & also a threat by his family
I have watched the first couple of episodes of Magi, but I really couldn't like the characters so I didn't finish it. I heard it was a great anime and the powers get OP later.E verything u said about Tatsuya.... I already knew he was treated as a tool & is considered as a threat but we have also learned that miyuki is kinda tatsuya's master & this was done intentionally so the yotsuba clan can control him. & what reason does miyuki have 4 depending on tatsuya so much? I find the character quite annoying @ times becuz she is filled with contradictions! In the beginning when honoka's bff confronted miyuki about her strange relationship with tatsuya she said that she loved her brother but it was more than that"everything she ws belonged 2 him" apparently. she denied being in love with him yet her actions said otherwise. she resented the fact that tatsuya was close with other girls.....she tended 2 throw fits if she found out he was with another girl! yet she @ one point said she wouldnt get in the way if tatsuya was interested in another girl. miyuki is so completely obsessed with her brother that i cant think of her without thinking of tatsuya bcuz its like she doesnt have her own identity! & i hate characters like that....i dont mind if a character loves hard 4 the MC but not to the point of them being an extension of some1 else.....that just screams dependency issues! I guess I'm all about "girl power" if you think they are not meant 2 be married due to him being used as a tool by the family then u really need 2 read the current vol.!
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