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Post by Unkai on Mar 18, 2016 18:50:51 GMT
Hm, from what I read. I think Rood is already dead, but the demon king's Brother (who will be "Blow") borrowed his body thus reviving him, bringing him back into life for some reason but during the process, the memory of Rood's body is erased, that's why he got amnesia. If anyone here's ever read Pandora's Heart's manga, must be already noticed that he's in similar situation with the protagonist of this manga, Oz Vessalius. Well, the reason is, The protagonist didn't know he's the rumoured strongest's 'chains'(this is what they called the demon or monster's here, since this manga have strong reference from Alice in the Wonderland's story) Black Rabbit and the Black Rabbit is using the death body of his own contractor, Jack Vessalius as his host, but ended losing his memories about what happened between him and Jack. The difference is, in his case, it's Jack, who's talking to him inside of his mind when he's collapsed or sleeping (like the way the Demon's king's little brother talking to Rood, when he's in his unsconcious state) so Jack still have control over his own body or rather to be more precise, Jack's controlling the chain who used his body as host. But in Rood's case, he might be the ones who's being used as host, but he lost all of his memorie during the process, and the demon king's Brother, talking to him sometimes in his sleep or whenever he's fainted, to help him or something else. Anyway, it's still unclear, if the demon's king controlling him or just using Rood's body as Vessel but he lost his own memories (like Oz) or he took Rood's form but losing his memories in the process, then his past self trying to talked to him, to awaken him and make him realizing who's he used to be, like how Ken Kaneki in Tokyo Ghoul trying to talk to Haise Sasaki, even though in Kaneki's case, he's not a dead person from beginning. Or maybe it's Rood (as Rood Sentia) whom made a deal with the demon's king's Brother to bring him back into life for his brother's sake, but he completely lost his memories about it (since there will be a price to pay for a huge deal like that) or maybe it's the Master, himself who made the deal, because it's unclear of what just happened when he's inside in the hell, we only see him crying over the skeleton of Rood (or someone). Sorry if it's really long and it may be pointless, but It's just my opinion of what already had happened.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 19:29:15 GMT
Hm, from what I read. I think Rood is already dead, but the demon king's Brother (who will be "Blow") borrowed his body thus reviving him, bringing him back into life for some reason but during the process, the memory of Rood's body is erased, that's why he got amnesia. If anyone here's ever read Pandora's Heart's manga, must be already noticed that he's in similar situation with the protagonist of this manga, Oz Vessalius. Well, the reason is, The protagonist didn't know he's the rumoured strongest's 'chains'(this is what they called the demon or monster's here, since this manga have strong reference from Alice in the Wonderland's story) Black Rabbit and the Black Rabbit is using the death body of his own contractor, Jack Vessalius as his host, but ended losing his memories about what happened between him and Jack. The difference is, in his case, it's Jack, who's talking to him inside of his mind when he's collapsed or sleeping (like the way the Demon's king's little brother talking to Rood, when he's in his unsconcious state) so Jack still have control over his own body or rather to be more precise, Jack's controlling the chain who used his body as host. But in Rood's case, he might be the ones who's being used as host, but he lost all of his memorie during the process, and the demon king's Brother, talking to him sometimes in his sleep or whenever he's fainted, to help him or something else. Anyway, it's still unclear, if the demon's king controlling him or just using Rood's body as Vessel but he lost his own memories (like Oz) or he took Rood's form but losing his memories in the process, then his past self trying to talked to him, to awaken him and make him realizing who's he used to be, like how Ken Kaneki in Tokyo Ghoul trying to talk to Haise Sasaki, even though in Kaneki's case, he's not a dead person from beginning. Or maybe it's Rood (as Rood Sentia) whom made a deal with the demon's king's Brother to bring him back into life for his brother's sake, but he completely lost his memories about it (since there will be a price to pay for a huge deal like that) or maybe it's the Master, himself who made the deal, because it's unclear of what just happened when he's inside in the hell, we only see him crying over the skeleton of Rood (or someone). Sorry if it's really long and it may be pointless, but It's just my opinion of what already had happened. Haha, thanks for the theory xD, but seriously I would be sooooooooooo sad if rood is already dead, but still thanks ;>
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Post by Ebony on Mar 21, 2016 11:05:31 GMT
Hm, from what I read. I think Rood is already dead, but the demon king's Brother (who will be "Blow") borrowed his body thus reviving him, bringing him back into life for some reason but during the process, the memory of Rood's body is erased, that's why he got amnesia. If anyone here's ever read Pandora's Heart's manga, must be already noticed that he's in similar situation with the protagonist of this manga, Oz Vessalius. Well, the reason is, The protagonist didn't know he's the rumoured strongest's 'chains'(this is what they called the demon or monster's here, since this manga have strong reference from Alice in the Wonderland's story) Black Rabbit and the Black Rabbit is using the death body of his own contractor, Jack Vessalius as his host, but ended losing his memories about what happened between him and Jack. The difference is, in his case, it's Jack, who's talking to him inside of his mind when he's collapsed or sleeping (like the way the Demon's king's little brother talking to Rood, when he's in his unsconcious state) so Jack still have control over his own body or rather to be more precise, Jack's controlling the chain who used his body as host. But in Rood's case, he might be the ones who's being used as host, but he lost all of his memorie during the process, and the demon king's Brother, talking to him sometimes in his sleep or whenever he's fainted, to help him or something else. Anyway, it's still unclear, if the demon's king controlling him or just using Rood's body as Vessel but he lost his own memories (like Oz) or he took Rood's form but losing his memories in the process, then his past self trying to talked to him, to awaken him and make him realizing who's he used to be, like how Ken Kaneki in Tokyo Ghoul trying to talk to Haise Sasaki, even though in Kaneki's case, he's not a dead person from beginning. Or maybe it's Rood (as Rood Sentia) whom made a deal with the demon's king's Brother to bring him back into life for his brother's sake, but he completely lost his memories about it (since there will be a price to pay for a huge deal like that) or maybe it's the Master, himself who made the deal, because it's unclear of what just happened when he's inside in the hell, we only see him crying over the skeleton of Rood (or someone). Sorry if it's really long and it may be pointless, but It's just my opinion of what already had happened. Ah~ I read Pandora Hearts too~ I also think that Rood might be used as a host and is already 'dead'. However, I think that Rood may regain his memories (maybe he is reincarnated as Rood, but the demon king's reincarnated self did not gain conscious until 'rood' died. i think that eventually Rood will have memories of both the demon king and his childhood (more flashbacks))
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2016 13:32:41 GMT
Hm, from what I read. I think Rood is already dead, but the demon king's Brother (who will be "Blow") borrowed his body thus reviving him, bringing him back into life for some reason but during the process, the memory of Rood's body is erased, that's why he got amnesia. If anyone here's ever read Pandora's Heart's manga, must be already noticed that he's in similar situation with the protagonist of this manga, Oz Vessalius. Well, the reason is, The protagonist didn't know he's the rumoured strongest's 'chains'(this is what they called the demon or monster's here, since this manga have strong reference from Alice in the Wonderland's story) Black Rabbit and the Black Rabbit is using the death body of his own contractor, Jack Vessalius as his host, but ended losing his memories about what happened between him and Jack. The difference is, in his case, it's Jack, who's talking to him inside of his mind when he's collapsed or sleeping (like the way the Demon's king's little brother talking to Rood, when he's in his unsconcious state) so Jack still have control over his own body or rather to be more precise, Jack's controlling the chain who used his body as host. But in Rood's case, he might be the ones who's being used as host, but he lost all of his memorie during the process, and the demon king's Brother, talking to him sometimes in his sleep or whenever he's fainted, to help him or something else. Anyway, it's still unclear, if the demon's king controlling him or just using Rood's body as Vessel but he lost his own memories (like Oz) or he took Rood's form but losing his memories in the process, then his past self trying to talked to him, to awaken him and make him realizing who's he used to be, like how Ken Kaneki in Tokyo Ghoul trying to talk to Haise Sasaki, even though in Kaneki's case, he's not a dead person from beginning. Or maybe it's Rood (as Rood Sentia) whom made a deal with the demon's king's Brother to bring him back into life for his brother's sake, but he completely lost his memories about it (since there will be a price to pay for a huge deal like that) or maybe it's the Master, himself who made the deal, because it's unclear of what just happened when he's inside in the hell, we only see him crying over the skeleton of Rood (or someone). Sorry if it's really long and it may be pointless, but It's just my opinion of what already had happened. i read it too~~
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Post by tableswillflip on Mar 26, 2016 5:59:18 GMT
Hm, from what I read. I think Rood is already dead, but the demon king's Brother (who will be "Blow") borrowed his body thus reviving him, bringing him back into life for some reason but during the process, the memory of Rood's body is erased, that's why he got amnesia. If anyone here's ever read Pandora's Heart's manga, must be already noticed that he's in similar situation with the protagonist of this manga, Oz Vessalius. Well, the reason is, The protagonist didn't know he's the rumoured strongest's 'chains'(this is what they called the demon or monster's here, since this manga have strong reference from Alice in the Wonderland's story) Black Rabbit and the Black Rabbit is using the death body of his own contractor, Jack Vessalius as his host, but ended losing his memories about what happened between him and Jack. The difference is, in his case, it's Jack, who's talking to him inside of his mind when he's collapsed or sleeping (like the way the Demon's king's little brother talking to Rood, when he's in his unsconcious state) so Jack still have control over his own body or rather to be more precise, Jack's controlling the chain who used his body as host. But in Rood's case, he might be the ones who's being used as host, but he lost all of his memorie during the process, and the demon king's Brother, talking to him sometimes in his sleep or whenever he's fainted, to help him or something else. Anyway, it's still unclear, if the demon's king controlling him or just using Rood's body as Vessel but he lost his own memories (like Oz) or he took Rood's form but losing his memories in the process, then his past self trying to talked to him, to awaken him and make him realizing who's he used to be, like how Ken Kaneki in Tokyo Ghoul trying to talk to Haise Sasaki, even though in Kaneki's case, he's not a dead person from beginning. Or maybe it's Rood (as Rood Sentia) whom made a deal with the demon's king's Brother to bring him back into life for his brother's sake, but he completely lost his memories about it (since there will be a price to pay for a huge deal like that) or maybe it's the Master, himself who made the deal, because it's unclear of what just happened when he's inside in the hell, we only see him crying over the skeleton of Rood (or someone). Sorry if it's really long and it may be pointless, but It's just my opinion of what already had happened. I just hope that Raven doesn't turn out to be like Jack. (Might be a little interesting if he's also a somewhat creepy character though)
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Post by Aulora on May 19, 2016 1:49:35 GMT
I don't know... I feel that if we added angels to this story, it would make it kind of predictable. Because, there are plenty of manga/manhwa stories that feature angels and demons. Most of them portray the angels not in a good light, while the demons have some goodness in there. (I'm just a bit tired of reading stories that have some "bad - corrupt" angels. ^__^) Thankfully, the few that don't follow this route, at least, maintain that there are some good non-humans/demons within the demon realm. I'm more content with the theme of corrupt humans and evil demons verse everyone else, who are good. However, if there were angels, like in Soul Cartel (which does the whole angel/demon thing properly), then...,it's inevitable. God may have some sort of existence in this story, but this story isn't based on the Christian God. So, having angels here doesn't really make sense to me. Ah, anyways.. . Back to this mysterious winged creature... When I first saw this, i thought this was Dio in his dragon form. But then, I looked at the wings and they do look different form his wings. I can see why someone may think "angel" when looking at it. Maybe, the Demon King had a half-brother? Or, an evil demon, who wants to take over the demon realm? We still know very little here. >__< I could even picture this figure in a cloak, with a hood over him, spreading his wings out. I'm only quoting this for the picture. I would say it's Lispen's wings but the ends look to messy to be his neat feathers and it looks like the figure has long hair. It's probably Raven or his brother in a human like form. Or it could be the real Meredith for all we know.
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Post by midori on May 19, 2016 8:15:19 GMT
I don't know... I feel that if we added angels to this story, it would make it kind of predictable. Because, there are plenty of manga/manhwa stories that feature angels and demons. Most of them portray the angels not in a good light, while the demons have some goodness in there. (I'm just a bit tired of reading stories that have some "bad - corrupt" angels. ^__^) Thankfully, the few that don't follow this route, at least, maintain that there are some good non-humans/demons within the demon realm. I'm more content with the theme of corrupt humans and evil demons verse everyone else, who are good. However, if there were angels, like in Soul Cartel (which does the whole angel/demon thing properly), then...,it's inevitable. God may have some sort of existence in this story, but this story isn't based on the Christian God. So, having angels here doesn't really make sense to me. Ah, anyways.. . Back to this mysterious winged creature... When I first saw this, i thought this was Dio in his dragon form. But then, I looked at the wings and they do look different form his wings. I can see why someone may think "angel" when looking at it. Maybe, the Demon King had a half-brother? Or, an evil demon, who wants to take over the demon realm? We still know very little here. >__< I could even picture this figure in a cloak, with a hood over him, spreading his wings out. I'm only quoting this for the picture. I would say it's Lispen's wings but the ends look to messy to be his neat feathers and it looks like the figure has long hair. It's probably Raven or his brother in a human like form. Or it could be the real Meredith for all we know. Or it could be someone we don't know at all!!! A new character....We don't know much about demon world. So maybe....or it could be Lispen in his real form. It looks to me like a giant creature rather than a human shaped one.
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Post by Neco on May 19, 2016 9:27:26 GMT
I'm only quoting this for the picture. I would say it's Lispen's wings but the ends look to messy to be his neat feathers and it looks like the figure has long hair. It's probably Raven or his brother in a human like form. Or it could be the real Meredith for all we know. Or it could be someone we don't know at all!!! A new character....We don't know much about demon world. So maybe....or it could be Lispen in his real form. It looks to me like a giant creature rather than a human shaped one.
When I originally saw it in the chapter I thought Lispen since...wings...but looking at it, the wings really look nothing like Lispen's at all. Lispen has 4 feathery wings that don't have those...thingies on top! I didn't think about it since I hadn't seen this picture in so long (Especially since we got a clearer look at his wings!)...but yeah...looking at it now......definitely not him xD But who it is..............eh? ??
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Post by midori on May 19, 2016 13:27:21 GMT
Or it could be someone we don't know at all!!! A new character....We don't know much about demon world. So maybe....or it could be Lispen in his real form. It looks to me like a giant creature rather than a human shaped one.
When I originally saw it in the chapter I thought Lispen since...wings...but looking at it, the wings really look nothing like Lispen's at all. Lispen has 4 feathery wings that don't have those...thingies on top! I didn't think about it since I hadn't seen this picture in so long (Especially since we got a clearer look at his wings!)...but yeah...looking at it now......definitely not him xD But who it is..............eh? ?? Probably the cause of Raven's disappearance XD That MP (mana puppet...i'm gonna call it that from now on) said something about a conflict or incident that occurred in the demon world and that Ruby survived it. That kind of makes me think that there was an enemy of Raven and DK in the demon world...DK getting caught by humans so easily and Raven's disappearing...it doesn't look like any human could be behind it and Meredith....I still don't know about that guy...He treats Rood differently than the rest of the tower mages and i don't get why he keeps calling rood Tower's belonging...that ritual couldn't be the only reason.... I think i got off the topic...
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