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Post by eriso on Aug 25, 2015 22:07:04 GMT
I do think God might be making another appearance in this - remember that Yong Yong has actually updated the prologue, taking out the section on the Demon King and making out that it was just God (at least, I think, judging by the pictures and the shape of the script ...). So God's been made slightly more central from the beginning. ... blah blah blah and so on this was too long to repost again XD wow that is a lot of text but yet i agree with almost every word :| :) Haha it wasn't meant to end up quite as long as it did ... but thanks :) |
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Post by Eryn on Aug 25, 2015 23:36:30 GMT
o___o You guys are writing stories in here. *Treads carefully.*
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Post by SS on Aug 26, 2015 0:30:50 GMT
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Post by tg on Aug 26, 2015 5:56:31 GMT
I do think God might be making another appearance in this - remember that Yong Yong has actually updated the prologue, taking out the section on the Demon King and making out that it was just God (at least, I think, judging by the pictures and the shape of the script ...). So God's been made slightly more central from the beginning. That's sounding good! It comes across as a strange curse really, letting him become what he wants to protect. A gift is an interesting take on it. Also, I imagine the Demon King might've been kinda torn up by having to kill his own species to save the humans. Maybe he was drowning in guilt and just wanted to forget everything, so he was given that chance. Hm, I'd never thought of it as a fairy tale before. More of a legend than anything. But running with the fairy tale concept, if you think of the Grimms' Fairy Tales, none of them ever have happy endings. They're always twisted and dark. So this actually lends credit to the tragedy theory. What if it weren't just one loyal demon? What if it were a group? In fact, what if it were Dio, Rubymonter and co? After all, Dio pretty much hero-worships the King, and Ruby was looking pretty upset in the 'He would've remembered me' scene. So what if they've also partly come to the human world to try and find out what happened to him, and to serve him once again? It’d also explain how little reverence Ruby has for human lives. Ah, and if the King's power returned to the demon world, it would explain why Rood only resembles him in Blow form, if it's true that magicians cease to be human when they Awaken ... Hmm about that humongous demon ... Not sure how the humans would have captured it so easily. There's something distinctly 'not normal and very plot-relevant’ and its appearance. Perhaps there was a war in the demon world between this demon and the Demon King, and this was part of what weakened the King so much, leading to his death? Perhaps it was trying to overthrow him and take power. So maybe one of the King's final acts was to seal the demon away and protect the world(s) from it. So perhaps we’ll get a future arc in which this demon is freed, and its hatred of humans is hugely increased for the time it’s spent trapped by them. Or the Human King and Demon King could’ve been such close friends that the HK took his own life upon hearing what had happened to the DK. And then DK refused to be reborn unless his closest friend was alongside him (unlikely, but I wanna see them being all friendly with each other so much!) Or, you know, it could just be a case of serious inbreeding amongst royalty. That’d explain the mutant colour-changing hair, too XD I like the blasphemous friendship idea  You’re definitely right about history. Perhaps the woman in the opening had somehow been there for all the events, and that was how she knew about it being the Demon King that saved the humans. Perhaps the woman in the opening is God. Anyway if we’re bringing the Prince into it, I wonder if the Princess had any serious role in a past life. Who knows, maybe she’s the reincarnation of the Human King instead. She does seem to love demons, after all (or at least Ming-Ming  ). If the Human King were just lucky enough to have his soul get another chance, I think it’s more likely that everyone is reincarnated. Hey, here’s one to mess with the mind: What if the reincarnation isn’t chronological? And from there, what if every single character is just a reincarnation of the Demon King? The further along his personal timeline, the less power the reincarnation has. Rood’s powerful because he’s the very first reincarnation :> Ooh I’d like to see Rood and the Prince recovering their memories alongside each other. The Tower would turn the Black Magician into a public enemy, but then after a bit the Prince would realise who he was and support him, turning against the Tower with him. That wouldn’t be a curse of all of the humans, though. That would only directly involve the magicians of the Tower, which are probably only a tiny percentage of the population. I think it’s more likely that the curse would be focused either on an individual (eg the Demon King) or an entire race (or perhaps everyone!) I think you’re right about Meredith. There’s something very unnerving about that innocent face … From the prologue, I got the impression that it was the Human King that opened the Door. Although now I’m thinking it could have been the huge demon that the Tower captured. Perhaps the opening of the Door was part of its attempt at overthrowing the Demon King. Still, we’re told that only the King of the Demons can open/close a Door, soooo …:/ Hah, other worlds are something I’ve been thinking about. It ties in pretty deeply with a fanfic piece I’ve been writing though, so I haven’t wanted to go into too much detail with my ideas there at risk of spoiling future plot XD I might anyway though! This is too much fun! What’s going on with that poor battery? :3 I’m getting into this theorising business haha Actually, when comparing both prologues, they basically say the same thing.  Haha... So, I don't think God was changed in any way. Both prologues talk about the human king pleading to God to wipe away the demons and the bright light showing up. The first version prologue did extend further with God at the end, but that was to show the possible "truth" of the situation. I now got this funny image in my head that the human king was pleading to God, but, the one who was listening to his request was the Demon King. (As the first version of the prologue ended with.) The Demon King must've spied on the human king from above or something.....? So, if we replace "God" with "Demon King", we are essentially cracking some truth into the story, if this indeed is the truth. Therefore, God can't be the woman in the opening, I don't think? She might've been a ghost inhabiting her skeletal body. That was my interpretation of it when I first read it. So, the irony is that the woman is actually talking to "God", because Rood is "God". (Not saying Rood is God, but Rood is the Demon King. ....You get the picture, I hope? ^__^) Anyways, I agree with you that it does become a strange curse if the Demon King got in touch with the real God. Yeah, he might've been torn about fighting his own species, but maybe, he has a special heart of justice? Like, he definitely knows what's wrong from right? He knows that it was wrong for the bad demons to attack humans. And maybe, he's more human than a demon in a sense that his behavior may actually be more human-like? (Seriously, he looks like a human, except for his eyes.) Yeah, the Grimm Fairytales were all really grim. D: You're right. I definitely agree with you that the Demon King had to have a bunch of loyal demons. I think Dio was on his own as the most loyal of loyalty, but for the others, I think they all respected him in their own way. The Demon King must've been a lonely individual. It's good that Dio was able to keep him company during those quiet days. However, Lispen must've been the loose screw. He may have been so loyal to a point that it may be an obsession? And, he must've hated Dio for being very close to the Demon King? So, when the power returned to the Demon world so it can be inherited by Ruby, Lispen took that chance to steal it...? It could go that way. If the giant demon was free, I think the human world will be in chaos again. Perhaps, sealing it was a bad idea from the start? We don't know what that demon is feeling or his deepest thoughts. He just looks dead from the outside. I will come back here in the morning time, in my timezone, and hopefully post the rest of my response in here before Black Haze gets updated. ^__^ It's that time where I must go to sleep, while my laptop is dying. (The thing is, I bring the laptop with me to bed and unplugged. I just use it as a way to force me to sleep, regardless. Haha...) So yes... This is going to be a long 2-part post. |
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Post by havoc on Aug 26, 2015 7:46:55 GMT
I think it could be like this: Border between human's and demon's dimension started to fade, doors started to appear naturalny. Low level Demons (that would be like mindless beasts) started to pour to humans world. Demon king seeing that he's the only one that can patch up border and he's unable to handle it all alone, while stopping demons from crossing and killing people, decided to give powers to humans so they can protect themselvs. Furthermore that tale about magicians getting power from god is made up to cover the fact that it originated grom demons.
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Post by *~~mattaku8World8bodimasen~~* on Aug 26, 2015 11:31:59 GMT
After reading all of the theories,I now have the demon king in my top fav character(although he will be in my top soon once Yong Yong revealed the truth)
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Post by eriso on Aug 26, 2015 12:51:07 GMT
Actually, when comparing both prologues, they basically say the same thing. :D Haha... So, I don't think God was changed in any way. Both prologues talk about the human king pleading to God to wipe away the demons and the bright light showing up. The first version prologue did extend further with God at the end, but that was to show the possible "truth" of the situation. I now got this funny image in my head that the human king was pleading to God, but, the one who was listening to his request was the Demon King. (As the first version of the prologue ended with.) The Demon King must've spied on the human king from above or something.....? So, if we replace "God" with "Demon King", we are essentially cracking some truth into the story, if this indeed is the truth. Therefore, God can't be the woman in the opening, I don't think? She might've been a ghost inhabiting her skeletal body. That was my interpretation of it when I first read it. So, the irony is that the woman is actually talking to "God", because Rood is "God". (Not saying Rood is God, but Rood is the Demon King. ....You get the picture, I hope? ^__^) Anyways, I agree with you that it does become a strange curse if the Demon King got in touch with the real God. Yeah, he might've been torn about fighting his own species, but maybe, he has a special heart of justice? Like, he definitely knows what's wrong from right? He knows that it was wrong for the bad demons to attack humans. And maybe, he's more human than a demon in a sense that his behavior may actually be more human-like? (Seriously, he looks like a human, except for his eyes.) Yeah, the Grimm Fairytales were all really grim. D: You're right. I definitely agree with you that the Demon King had to have a bunch of loyal demons. I think Dio was on his own as the most loyal of loyalty, but for the others, I think they all respected him in their own way. The Demon King must've been a lonely individual. It's good that Dio was able to keep him company during those quiet days. However, Lispen must've been the loose screw. He may have been so loyal to a point that it may be an obsession? And, he must've hated Dio for being very close to the Demon King? So, when the power returned to the Demon world so it can be inherited by Ruby, Lispen took that chance to steal it...? It could go that way. If the giant demon was free, I think the human world will be in chaos again. Perhaps, sealing it was a bad idea from the start? We don't know what that demon is feeling or his deepest thoughts. He just looks dead from the outside. I will come back here in the morning time, in my timezone, and hopefully post the rest of my response in here before Black Haze gets updated. ^__^ It's that time where I must go to sleep, while my laptop is dying. (The thing is, I bring the laptop with me to bed and unplugged. I just use it as a way to force me to sleep, regardless. Haha...) So yes... This is going to be a long 2-part post. Nah, I mean that in the original one, it suggested the Demon King’s involvement, whereas the original only references God. So in the original, the existence of the Demon King and his actions detracted a bit from God but now we only have the human king’s prayer being answered (seemingly) by God. Maybe the Demon King was in love with the human king, and was stalking him to the point of being creepily obsessive? And the reason he turned against his own kind is cuz love conquers all? XD What if the BH universe actually has no all-powerful God? It could be that each world has its own King, and God just happens to be the King of the Dead or something like that. Thus, he’d be able to reincarnate the Demon King, but he’d have no power over the demons when they invaded the human world. He could, perhaps, have communicated with the Demon King, begged him for help. He would’ve known about the situation, because there’d be masses of dead pouring into his world. Honestly, I only mean the ‘opening woman being God’ in half seriousness ^-^ I’ve got nothing whatsoever to support it haha It’d present some interesting scenarios, though. (Yeah, I getcha) There’d have to be a reason behind him having more human tendencies than the other demons. If we go back to the possibility of everyone being reincarnated, suppose there was something strange about Rood’s soul, that stopped it from being fully ‘wiped’ when reborn. So he might’ve been a human before being the Demon King, and some of that humanity stuck with him. Not sure about it being Lispen … If he were that loyal, he’d be trying to help and support Rood/Blow at this point. I suppose it would be possible for him to feel so deeply betrayed that he turned against the Demon King, but the angry/heartbroken/emotional thing doesn’t seem to fit his character very well, I don’t think. That would be interesting to see. You’re right about its internal thoughts. It could go in any direction. I think something big will happen involving it in the future, though. Hah sounds good. I really shouldn’t write anymore right now as it is – it’s starting to get late and I've got a test tomorrow (Ah, that makes sense!). It’s probably actually better to split the posts now they’re getting so long, to make the convo a little more accessible for people who want to share a thought or two but are being scared off by our walls of text hehe :P |
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Post by eriso on Aug 26, 2015 12:56:49 GMT
I think it could be like this: Border between human's and demon's dimension started to fade, doors started to appear naturalny. Low level Demons (that would be like mindless beasts) started to pour to humans world. Demon king seeing that he's the only one that can patch up border and he's unable to handle it all alone, while stopping demons from crossing and killing people, decided to give powers to humans so they can protect themselvs. Furthermore that tale about magicians getting power from god is made up to cover the fact that it originated grom demons. I like that! I wonder if the Demon King found a permanent solution, or if poor Rood will be facing the same situation again in the future, leading up to him having to make a similar choice again? We can agree on the true story of the power being covered up like that :P |
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Post by tg on Aug 26, 2015 15:06:14 GMT
I think it could be like this: Border between human's and demon's dimension started to fade, doors started to appear naturalny. Low level Demons (that would be like mindless beasts) started to pour to humans world. Demon king seeing that he's the only one that can patch up border and he's unable to handle it all alone, while stopping demons from crossing and killing people, decided to give powers to humans so they can protect themselvs. Furthermore that tale about magicians getting power from god is made up to cover the fact that it originated grom demons. Well, that's a little similar to our theories and very much possible. Because, in my theory, "God" = "Demon King" in the prologue. He brought the light back to the human world. Unfortunately, that truth was covered up. Like eriso said, we mutually agree on this. Nah, I mean that in the original one, it suggested the Demon King’s involvement, whereas the original only references God. So in the original, the existence of the Demon King and his actions detracted a bit from God but now we only have the human king’s prayer being answered (seemingly) by God. Maybe the Demon King was in love with the human king, and was stalking him to the point of being creepily obsessive? And the reason he turned against his own kind is cuz love conquers all? XD What if the BH universe actually has no all-powerful God? It could be that each world has its own King, and God just happens to be the King of the Dead or something like that. Thus, he’d be able to reincarnate the Demon King, but he’d have no power over the demons when they invaded the human world. He could, perhaps, have communicated with the Demon King, begged him for help. He would’ve known about the situation, because there’d be masses of dead pouring into his world. Honestly, I only mean the ‘opening woman being God’ in half seriousness ^-^ I’ve got nothing whatsoever to support it haha It’d present some interesting scenarios, though. (Yeah, I getcha) There’d have to be a reason behind him having more human tendencies than the other demons. If we go back to the possibility of everyone being reincarnated, suppose there was something strange about Rood’s soul, that stopped it from being fully ‘wiped’ when reborn. So he might’ve been a human before being the Demon King, and some of that humanity stuck with him. Not sure about it being Lispen … If he were that loyal, he’d be trying to help and support Rood/Blow at this point. I suppose it would be possible for him to feel so deeply betrayed that he turned against the Demon King, but the angry/heartbroken/emotional thing doesn’t seem to fit his character very well, I don’t think. That would be interesting to see. You’re right about its internal thoughts. It could go in any direction. I think something big will happen involving it in the future, though. Hah sounds good. I really shouldn’t write anymore right now as it is – it’s starting to get late and I've got a test tomorrow (Ah, that makes sense!). It’s probably actually better to split the posts now they’re getting so long, to make the convo a little more accessible for people who want to share a thought or two but are being scared off by our walls of text hehe That's true. That part, in that sense. Um.... O__o I don't think so.... That would be creepy. (No offense, but I don't want this story to become yaoi/BL. Hahah.... ^^; I know you're joking, but still...) That's a possibility, but King of the Dead? That would be insane. Maybe? But, I'm not sure on that. At least, in the human world, I think there should be more than one human king. It's just this country that our main characters are in that has a focal point with its kingdom. Kind of weird how it's just one country that has this connection with the demons? (The story does talk about other countries in a subtle way. We don't hear anything from those countries.) Haha... So, you're saying the Demon KIng/Rood might've been a human before becoming the Demon King? Woah.... That would be.....a lot of memory digging to go through if that was the case. Interesting theory, nonetheless. I'm not sure Yong would make it that complicated though. We still haven't even seen a lot of the Demon King flashbacks to even judge how the Demon King acts, etc. However, the Demon King having human tendencies make me think of him petting small dragon!Dio, because he likes Dio more in that form than the big scary one. (And I still think everyone being a reincarnation is crazy. ^____^) That's why I said that he could be a twisted follower. Meaning, he acknowledges the King, but he'll do things that he THINKS are good for the King in his own twisty mindset. Loyalty doesn't necessarily mean helping the one you're following all the way. You may have different goals/conditions/feelings about things than the one you're following. Sort of like those bad guys, who think they're doing things in the best interest of the ones they care for. No matter what the other party says, it won't stop those bad guys from committing bad stuff on others. >__< Lispen has his own agenda. That's what we can get for sure. He's doing things his own way, but we don't know what they are. I don't think he feels betrayed if he's the one, who betrayed the other demons/non-humans. He can be angry at the Tower. Yes. We just have to wait and see... Especially, with the recent Episode 121..... Lispen and Orphell's talk. Definitely, something big should happen in the near future. For better or worse.... (Maybe, worse before things get better?) Good luck on the test! (I still have the second part of your last post to respond to, but I agree that splitting our responses up in half can be good for other users. ^_^ But, at least for me, give me some time to actually respond back to the rest of your last post. I have work later today so I don't know when I'll get a chance to respond to it. I'll have enough time to Disqus Black Haze on Mangacow. See you there, eriso! ) |
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Post by tg on Aug 27, 2015 5:43:30 GMT
Note: This is not the official response to part 2! Not yet. ^____^ I am simply quoting the remaining parts in preparation for responding to this, tomorrow. Hopefully, I can do it in the morning. I'll be super busy tomorrow. We can now also theorize on Iel as well. ^^; Iel and her hair color.... ( ) Plus, her height.... HER HEIGHT was as tall as Blow's! O___O Or the Human King and Demon King could’ve been such close friends that the HK took his own life upon hearing what had happened to the DK. And then DK refused to be reborn unless his closest friend was alongside him (unlikely, but I wanna see them being all friendly with each other so much!) Or, you know, it could just be a case of serious inbreeding amongst royalty. That’d explain the mutant colour-changing hair, too XD I like the blasphemous friendship idea You’re definitely right about history. Perhaps the woman in the opening had somehow been there for all the events, and that was how she knew about it being the Demon King that saved the humans. Perhaps the woman in the opening is God. Anyway if we’re bringing the Prince into it, I wonder if the Princess had any serious role in a past life. Who knows, maybe she’s the reincarnation of the Human King instead. She does seem to love demons, after all (or at least Ming-Ming ). If the Human King were just lucky enough to have his soul get another chance, I think it’s more likely that everyone is reincarnated. Hey, here’s one to mess with the mind: What if the reincarnation isn’t chronological? And from there, what if every single character is just a reincarnation of the Demon King? The further along his personal timeline, the less power the reincarnation has. Rood’s powerful because he’s the very first reincarnation :> Ooh I’d like to see Rood and the Prince recovering their memories alongside each other. The Tower would turn the Black Magician into a public enemy, but then after a bit the Prince would realise who he was and support him, turning against the Tower with him. That wouldn’t be a curse of all of the humans, though. That would only directly involve the magicians of the Tower, which are probably only a tiny percentage of the population. I think it’s more likely that the curse would be focused either on an individual (eg the Demon King) or an entire race (or perhaps everyone!) I think you’re right about Meredith. There’s something very unnerving about that innocent face … From the prologue, I got the impression that it was the Human King that opened the Door. Although now I’m thinking it could have been the huge demon that the Tower captured. Perhaps the opening of the Door was part of its attempt at overthrowing the Demon King. Still, we’re told that only the King of the Demons can open/close a Door, soooo …:/ Hah, other worlds are something I’ve been thinking about. It ties in pretty deeply with a fanfic piece I’ve been writing though, so I haven’t wanted to go into too much detail with my ideas there at risk of spoiling future plot XD I might anyway though! This is too much fun! What’s going on with that poor battery? :3 I’m getting into this theorising business haha |
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Post by tg on Aug 27, 2015 15:34:51 GMT
Now, the real response! Wow... The human king and Demon King that close of friends, huh? That is very touching, but I could see it the other way with the human king refusing to come back if the Demon King didn't come back too. (But, if there is some kind of curse, then, they both wouldn't have a choice either way. ) I do want to see them being super friendly with each other a lot, too. ^__^ D: Inbreeding? But...but... That would mean the entire royal family, and future generations, would have serious health problems! ^^; I mean, I know that use to be done in the past for some old royal families to keep the blood "pure", but realistically speaking, it's not good. I prefer the genetic inheritance of the hair color over inbreeding any day. Haha... Blasphemous friendship... I like how you put it. (Good humans and demons could learn from one another... *sigh*) Maybe? She may have been a historian or someone, who somehow stumbled upon the truth? Then, she got captured and was sent to the Tower? Could that be a possibility? But then, the Demon King's position wouldn't make sense in the true history if that was so. ^__^ If that woman was God, I would actually panic... Haha.... God took the form of an experimented prisoner? Wait, as a spiritual messenger, maybe? But, she wouldn't be God. She would be an angel! *super grins* Hmm.. Doubt it. I can't picture it at all. She just has a knack for anything that looks cute. That's pretty normal for a little girl, who doesn't seem to be afraid of strange creatures. (Ok, maybe that's not normal.) Well, what I'm trying to say is.... I like that the Princess serves as some comic relief and it feels right for her role/personality. I don't think I want that to change at all. Her relationship with "Ming-Ming" is just too adorable! The Prince, however.... He seems to be the more serious kind older brother. He's the perfect candidate. O__o Eriso, I think you broke my mind by saying everyone is a reincarnation of the Demon King. You didn't just mess with it! More than that, I think you broke the story? Hahaha.... But, I don't think Rood would be the first reincarnation. There were Magicians before he was born....? @_@ That would be cool to see them recover their memories together, but I don't really mind if the Prince already had his memories return before Rood. Or, vice-versa... Well, it actually makes things more mysterious, or interesting, if the Prince got his memories back first. The thing is, we don't know what the Prince's stance on the Tower is. We just saw him in one episode and that was it. So, he may already be secretly plotting against the Tower, regardless of whether he's a reincarnation and had his memories back. Hm... So, a curse on the Tower, our main cast of characters, an entire race, or everyone? Woah.... Too many choices on who to curse!! @___@ I can't decide on a single one .... (j/k?) Maybe, we should just curse ourselves first? (j/k j/k) Right? Usually, manga/manhwa would portray the smiley innocent cute faces as a cover in disguise. So, Meredith may look "friendly", but depending on his past actions will determine what kind of "sins" (if any) he has done. He's the founder of the Tower. So, as the founder, he made sure that experiments were done on demons or that giant demon. Also, because he was there since the beginning of the Tower's conception, which we don't know how long that was, he could definitely be older than he looks. You could be onto something. The opening of the Door could be an attempt to overthrow the Demon King. Maybe, the Demon King was tricked into opening a Door? And wait.... I thought there were different kinds of Doors? Because, it seems the humans are aware that there are Doors that can easily be open and closed with magic. However, only the Demon King and open and close the special Door like the one that was crying in tears on Blow. ( ) So, the Door that the human king found could've been a normal Door. The prologue states: "A human king discovered a 'door' to another world.... and the story starts when the king opened the 'door'." I interpreted that as a Door sitting in the middle of some random space. The human king was curious so he went through it, and discovered the demon world. Someone definitely had that opened there for some reason. The question is, who? I don't think it is the Demon King so this goes back to your possible theory of someone possibly trying to cause chaos between both worlds enough for the Demon King to show himself. Now, you're making me curious on your fanfic. Hehehhe... And, I think I addressed my battery usage in the last last post..? But, I found out that I had a malware on my laptop so it would heat up my battery to a point that it would shut off my laptop automatically. Even if the laptop was plugged in. For the past few days, I got worried I would lose whatever I was typing on this forum so I had to be a little quick. Eventually, I got rid of that malware and my laptop seems to be fine now. I can see that you're really getting a hang into this theorizing business. You're impressing me with every post. I'm done! Now, you can take your sweet time responding back to both parts, Eriso! (evil laughter) |
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Post by *~~mattaku8World8bodimasen~~* on Aug 27, 2015 16:02:21 GMT
Someone should really make fics from all of these ideas lol
With these ideas,we can make a whole forum for BH fanfics :P although we can't
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Post by :D on Aug 27, 2015 19:15:30 GMT
I'm wondering if the Demon King in Rood's mindscape might just be Rood's memories and consciousness as the demon king tucked away inside his head sort of like how Mori Jin in God of Highschool had his memories as monkey king tucked away in his gourd. Maybe the demon king put on a human disguise like the other demons and sealed his own memories so that the tower couldn't abuse him. The tower has shown that they'd be more than ecstatic to get their hands on a demon king to experiment on. From the little information that we know about the king, I can't help but feel that he's terribly OP so I wouldn't be surprised if the demon king could create some sort of artificial human body and seal off part of his consciousness.
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Post by tg on Aug 29, 2015 6:04:39 GMT
I'm wondering if the Demon King in Rood's mindscape might just be Rood's memories and consciousness as the demon king tucked away inside his head sort of like how Mori Jin in God of Highschool had his memories as monkey king tucked away in his gourd. Maybe the demon king put on a human disguise like the other demons and sealed his own memories so that the tower couldn't abuse him. The tower has shown that they'd be more than ecstatic to get their hands on a demon king to experiment on. From the little information that we know about the king, I can't help but feel that he's terribly OP so I wouldn't be surprised if the demon king could create some sort of artificial human body and seal off part of his consciousness. An artificial human body in child form? Like in Divine Bells, but not as a duplicate? Mmmm... I'm not sure on it. I do agree with you that his Demon King memories are sleeping, or hidden away, but to become an aging human child? It doesn't exactly make sense for me. He could've pulled a human disguise as an adult with false memories. Plus, he had followers, who somehow failed to protect him. And, on top of all of that, he still got captured by the Tower along with some humans. Reincarnation made the more logical sense, to me at least. It would explain Dio's confidence that he won't lose the Demon King again. It would also explain how the prologue's origin story feels like it happened a long time ago between the Demon King and the human king. Your theory did make me think a way it could work, but that is if the Demon King did hide away as a human for many years, and then, mysteriously de-aged himself. Question though would be, do demons age naturally in their human bodies? Lispen "ages", but is he in control of the aging process? |
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Post by eriso on Sept 3, 2015 7:38:40 GMT
(Yeah, I don’t actually want that either. Actually, I don't really want any romance in it. Perhaps a few side characters, but not much more than that. It'd change the tone so much. Fortunately, it’s unlikely to happen cuz it would be such a different genre. Sorry … I probably come up with too many joke theories … :3) It would certainly lead to a very convoluted plot. Ooh, thanks for bringing that up! We still know so little about the overall geography of the place. I doubt the demons would be constrained to just one country. Still, the Door could’ve opened in the area this is all set in, so the majority of demons would end up attacking around there. I wonder if there are magicians in other parts? I think you’re right about the multiple human kings, though. That does make me wonder ... why is the Demon King the Demon King? Was he the creator of all demons, or was he selected to rule because of his power, or something else? Where did the King come from? Why is he so much stronger than the other demons? Until now, I've been going with the 'creator' theory. But there are so many possibilities! And is there some sort of equivalence between the human king and Demon King? We know the Demon King is insanely powerful. Is there anything more than just being born to the right family to becoming a human king? Perhaps there was a human king of more influence than any other - the original king of the humans? I guess that would be God, but still, I enjoy the idea of the human and demon kings being somewhat equal. I think if that were to happen, it’d be cool but really hard to pull off. Like you say, it probably won’t end up so complex. (Maybe so … particularly after Chapter 122, I’m starting to doubt that we’ll get any reincarnation at all, much less an entire cast of it. Doesn’t mean I won’t keep theorizing about it, though – you never know!) Ooh yes, I like that. He certainly seems twisted enough to think like that! You’ve convinced me >__< Whatever the case, it’ll be interesting to learn a little more about his goals and motivation in the future. Yeah. It’s not gonna stay locked up forever, I’m sure. (Worse before better … that’s the best sort in a story.) Thanks :) I seem to have a lot of them currently. (Yeah, take as long as you need! I certainly took a while this time. And I’ll be looking out for you on Mangacow.) |
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You’re definitely right about history. 
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Haha... So, I don't think God was changed in any way. Both prologues talk about the human king pleading to God to wipe away the demons and the bright light showing up. The first version prologue did extend further with God at the end, but that was to show the possible "truth" of the situation. 
